Encampment response team and public space bylaw review

All right, we're gonna call the meeting to order. Thank you very much for coming everybody for our City Council meeting for Tuesday, July 21st. 2026. And we do apologise for starting a little bit late. We did have our Guelph Municipal Holdings, Inc. meeting just prior to this, that went a little bit over time. With that, I am looking for, first of all, any disclosure of pecuniary interest, any general nature thereof for the closed item that we're looking to move into closed on. Nothing, okay, thank you. And the recommendation in front of us, if Council so approves, is to move into a closed meeting for Grant Agreement, which is the title. As per section 2392H of the municipal act regarding information explicitly supplied and confidence to the municipality or local board by Canada, a province, or territory, or a crowned agency of any of them. And at this time, that is the only in - camera discussion at this point. So councillor Richardson and Councillor Cossen

is going to move in second to move into closed on that item. And is there anything further on that before I call the vote. Nobody, okay, I'll call the vote. Are there anyone against moving closed on that item. Nobody that's unanimous. So we'll be, I guarantee you, we'll be very quick. We'll be very quick. We'll be in and out on this one for sure. I have faith in that. So please just give us a few moments. We'll be right back after this meeting. I'll still give the high - level summary before we kick off into the rest of the agenda. Okay. Thank you.

Garrett, can I start now? Yeah. Okay. Thank you. I'll just call the meeting back to order in the open session here. We just, I told you we'd be quick. And so we were in under the title that said Grant Agreement. And we did give direction in regards to that matter to our staff. Okay. And that's all that happened in there. Uh, and so with that, uh, we're looking to start our meeting if you could. Please rise if you're able. Uh, as we recognise our national anthem.

Grey. Thank. You. In just a moment of silent reflection, as we continue.

Acknowledgement, as we gather, let us take time to reflect on our privilege to live and work and wealth, which is a city built over rich, indigenous histories. As guests here, we should reflect upon the responsibility to care for this land, the people who live here today and the generations to come. For actions, can move us towards reconciliation. We should take pause and make those decisions with intention and gratitude. Place we call Guelph has served as traditional lands and a police of refuge for many people's over time. But more specifically, the Anahuana Rock and the Holmeshoni. This land is held as the treaty lands and territory with the Mississaugas of the credit First Nation and Guelph lies directly adjacent to the Haldeman track. And as part of a long - established traditional hunting grounds for the Six Nations of the Grand River. Many First Nations, Inuit, and May T people who have come from across Turtle Island called Guelph home today. Great. Thank you very much for that. Is there any disclosure or pecuniary interest or any general nature thereof for the items in front of us here today. No. Okay. Uh, we have a very, very great and wonderful recognition awards portion of our agenda

right now. And it is for the Gulf Barrier Free Committee. And I am just going to, if you don't mind, just going to take a moment as I come down here into the middle of the room and do the presentations there on behalf of council and the community. Okay. So please just bear with me for a second.

Thank you everybody. We're good. Yeah. Okay. So before we begin the presentation of the 2026 access recognition awards, I would like to acknowledge the role of the Gulph Barrier - free committee. This community led committee promotes accessibility awareness and encourages a more accessible and inclusive community for people with disabilities living, working in or visiting Guelph as part of its positive approach to advancing accessibility. The committee recognises individuals and businesses that have made meaningful contributions to improving accessibility in our community. And the awards are nomination - based. And the recipients are selected by the Committee in Recognition of Outstanding Achievements in both the personal accomplishment and the business categories. The Guelph Barrier - Free Committee access recognition awards honour those who demonstrated an extraordinary commitment to accessibility and inclusion within our community. And this year, we're giving away and recognising seven recipients across two award categories.

Our first category is the outstanding contribution of an individual or a business, recognising those who have made contributions above and beyond the requirements of the accessibility for Ontarians with disabilities act, the AODA. And by recognising, removing or preventing barriers for people with disabilities. And our first recipient, unfortunately, who is not here today, but I'm still going to read it out loud, is Art Not Shame. Let's give a clap when I say their name for sure. All right. That way when they watch back, they hear we all clapped. The award here is in recognition of your outstanding work to create a highly accessible and inclusive community ArtSub through proactive barrier removal and accessible design. Art Not Shame has embedded accessibility into every aspect of its community art space. Through accessible design, adaptive art tools, sensory supports, and flexible programs they have proactively removed barriers that can prevent people with disabilities from fully participating in the arts.

And their commitment goes beyond physical access, but providing clear accessibility information and creating an environment where community members can participate in independently, confidently, and with dignity. So please join me again, all of us, Big Clap for Art Not Shane. All right, our next recipient is the Guelph Community Health Centre. So this says in recognition of your outstanding commitment to creating an accessible, inclusive, hold on, are you here? Get up here then. Come on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, come on. Sure. I'd love to say it with you here, you know? So, uh, let's see here. Back to the beginning cam. Here we go. In recognition of your outstanding commitment to creating an accessible, inclusive and welcoming community through a proactive design and inclusive community resources. The Guelph Community Health Centre demonstrates a strong commitment to removing barriers to health care, community participation and well - being. Through accessible facilities, including programming and initiatives that address social and

language barriers, they help ensure community members can access the services and supports that they need. Their work reflects a holistic approach to accessibility, inclusion, and belonging for people of all abilities. Please join us and congratulating the Guelph Community Health Centre. I wonder if.

Great. But thank. You. Nice to see. You. All right. Our next award winner is Natalie Codney from Dynamic Balance.

In recognition of your exceptional commitment to advancing accessible and inclusive health care by removing barriers and ensuring all access care with dignity and with comfort. That's what, by the way, when I say the first part, that's what's written on the certificate. Okay. Now we get into the Y. So Natalie has intentionally built a healthcare practice that prioritizes accessibility and inclusion. Through accessible treatment options, sensory - friendly supports. Trauma - informed care and affordable service models she works to ensure health care is available to everyone. Her commitment to reducing physical, sensory, and financial barriers has helped create a welcoming and inclusive experience for many members of our community. So please join with me as we congratulate Natalie for all her great work. And. I guess we're looking over here. Great. Thank you. Again. It's going to meet you. Our next recipient is Royal

City Mission. So this is in recognition of your outstanding dedication to improving accessibility. By removing physical and social barriers and access at Royal City Mission. Royal City Mission has demonstrated a significant commitment to accessibility through improvements such as the new, accessible washroom. The accessible shower, and the renovated elevator, which have increased the physical access to its facility and the services they provide. At the same time, it continues to remove social barriers by creating a warm and welcoming environment where every individual is treated with dignity, with respect, and with compassion. By fostering this inclusion belonging an equitable access, Royal City Mission has become an important resource for many members of our community. So please join me again and congratulating Royal City Mission for all they do.

All right. Next up is Emma. Lukes. Am I saying that... Is it Lux? That way, yes. Emma, thank you. The recognition message on this award says in recognition, come on up, if you want, come on. Of your outstanding dedication to advancing inclusion and accessibility and creating opportunities for people with disabilities to connect, participate, thrive. So Emma is a passionate advocate whose work has expanded opportunities for people with disabilities. To participate in recreation, community programs, and social activities. Through advocacy, innovation and education, she continually works to challenge barriers and promote accessibility. Whether supporting adaptive programming, advancing inclusive practices, or amplifying disability experiences and perspectives. Emma's leadership continues to strengthen inclusion across our entire community. Please join me in congratulating Emma with all the great work that she's doing. So, hold on. Sorry. There you go.

Okay. All the best. Thank you. Okay, Megan Reed is our next person here. Megan, come on down. So, sound like the price is right there. Come on down. Our recognition on this award says, uh, for your outstanding dedication to advancing inclusion and supporting the autism community through advocacy, education, and leadership. Megan has been a dedicated advocate for inclusion within the autism community. And through her leadership of Caleb's walk, and her work supporting students and families, she has helped build connections, raise awareness, and improve access to valuable community resources. Her commitment to removing barriers, empowering families, and fostering belonging continues to make a meaningful difference for individuals and families across Gulph. Please join me in welcoming, and congratulating Megan for all she does in the community.

Okay. Con. Again. Yeah. Okay, our second category is Outstanding Accomplishment of an individual recognising individuals with a disability who have overcome personal barriers to fulfill a goal or a dream. And this year's recipient is Rundle Dorosh. Am I saying that right. Okay, come on up. Rundle. The recognition of this award says in Recognition of your outstanding resilience and dedication to empowering others through mentorship, creativity, and inclusive community building. Following a life - changing injury, Rundle turned to wood carving as part of his recovery journey. And through determination, creativity, and resilience, he not only developed his own skills, but begin sharing them with others through the second Sunday Carver's Club. By freely sharing his knowledge, tools, and encouragement,

Rundle has created an inclusive space where people can learn, connect, and build confidence. His achievements demonstrate how perseverance can inspire others and strengthen community belonging. Please join me in congratulating, Rendle, for all that he's done.

Good. To see you. I think we're good. A massive round of applause for everyone, for all they've done. If you're good with it, if you want to just come back in here for one group photo, and maybe I could ask all of council to kind of stand and maybe just kind of come together a little bit, uh, we can do a big group photo together. Actually, why does it council just come down? We'll just do a group photo together.

Clerks have said maybe best for me just to stay here for the next couple of awards to give out. The first one is no stranger to this room. And no stranger to our community. Nathan Skofis just keeps on winning. All the time. Uh, Nathan, as you can see here, is, uh, men's black belt all weights and all stages overall fighting title. This is a record - breaking 13th consecutive year, is one. Now I was six degree black belt. And also local business owner here in town as well, which we of course want to celebrate. But Nathan continues, really representing not just Guelph. Uh, not just Ontario, but actually is representing Canada. And it's amazing to have you in our community with all that you do, and especially with this last celebration. So on behalf of the City, on behalf of City Council, we have this award to give to you. And I think your award will outshine this one when you bring it down, but we want to give it to you as much sort of support as what you have won there. So on behalf of the City again, thank you. Let's give a

huge round of applause to Nathan.

Yeah, so I've been here, you know, my whole life I started at four, and, uh. Like 13 years, I remember we said when we got to 10, we would kind of stop. And I mean. I think for us now, it's not so much the tournament wins. It's, you know, the three - year - olds and four - year - olds we work with and had the studio, it gives them, you know, you might be from Guelph and it's a small city, but, you know, if you work hard to a goal, you can do it because I remember for us, when we'd go to tournaments, the first one we went to world championship, and they'd announce you, they pronounced it Gulf. So then we have to write it phonetically. And I think it's a big thing representing Canada, but the community, and it, I mean, the whole community, you guys have been so supportive of litter everything we do. And Cam too, I'm sad to see you. Going to miss you. No, sad to see a girl, but you've been supportive, and I mean, all you guys in the city, and I think, you know, representing when you go to an international championship, there's not a bigger pride for us. And I'd just like to say thank you to everybody. Thanks a lot. Thanks for having us. Thank. A lot. For the last month.

Okay, next, where's Noah? I have not actually met Noah yet. Where is, oh, front row. Okay, come on down, Noah. So this is interesting. I got an email about this award called the Gold Duke of Ember Award. And nice to meet you. Welcome here. Thank you. And. I had to look it up. In fact, I actually had my staff look up what this award was all about. And I, I'm just going to be very transparent. I said, is this like, is this a big thing or is it not? Because I knew nothing about it at all. And Mark, my communications director came into my office and said, Kim, this is like a big deal. I'm like, oh. And, uh, so I was wondering, maybe I'll ask you to go first. And maybe, yeah, you can stand right here if you want with me. Why don't you tell everybody what you had to do to get this? Because this is a big deal. Yeah. So basically the Duke of Edinburgh Award, the three levels to it. There's a bronze level, a silver level, and a gold level. Um, and I started it in grade nine when I was like 14, I think. And I'm now 19. So it's been a bit of journey for sure. Um, each level, the sort of an increasing number of hours.

You have to complete of three categories. Uh, there's a voluntary service category, uh, physical fitness category. And then some skill development as well as an adventurous journey, like a canoe trip or something like that. Um, and then the gold level, then additional project that you have to do. So I did many things over the course of this award. One of them was actually here volunteering the Guelph Youth Council. I also volunteered at a program called Start to Finish where it was with at Willow Road Public School. I would help kids improve their reading skills and their physical fitness. Um, I did weightlifting, uh, for my physical fitness. Um, and then for skills, I did a coding class. I learned really tricky songs on the piano. I played in a band. Yeah. So we've definitely gotten a lot out of this program that I went on a bunch of different canoe trips, um, which were all, you know, really good learning opportunities. And then for my gold, uh, or I think the picture, maybe it's not either anymore. It doesn't matter. I did a program called the Imagine Architecture Program at Carlton University. Uh, which was a three week program last summer. And I basically lived on campus at Carleton and I learned about kind of

what it would be like to do, um, an architecture undergrad, which is what I will be doing in September. So I'm looking forward to that. Um, yeah, it's been really, really cool. Really awesome experience for sure. And you know, this, this award is very rarely given out. It's the Duke of Ambrose International Award. And why my office, the mayor's office was sort of reached out to is that, um, ever since several years ago, they used to kind of give a presentation of what a person like yourself is done and they stopped doing that. And, uh, so there was an opportunity for me to kind of recognise you in front of council and the community. And I thought, I thought this was a wonderful opportunity to do that. So, um, huge round of applause for Noah giving back to the community and all of that he's done as well. And, uh, I, uh, I really appreciate all that you've done. Uh, I'm very similar to you, especially within the weightlifting part. I did a lot of that. Yeah. And I will see you over here and we'll get a picture together. Okay.

Well, thanks everyone. And, uh. Yeah, this might be a good time. I mean, you can stick around if you want, but if you want to leave now is a good time for sure. Right into the agenda confirmation of the open minutes of, uh, June 9th, 10th and 23rd. And the minutes of the open committee of the whole meeting. From June 2nd, 2026 to be confirmed as recorded and without being read with some people in Councillor Downer and Alt will move in second that for me. Is there anything more on the minutes. Nope. I'll call the votes anyone against the minutes. That's nobody, it's unanimous. And we have the consent. Report. I'll read them all out. And then let me know if anyone wants to, um, pull anything. Okay. The corporate asset management policy update. The 2026 Enterprise Risk Management, the risk register update. The Finance Policy updates. And the 2026 to 2029 Guelph Community Safety and Wellbeing plan. Is there anything more that needs to be done or pulled on those items? No. Who would like to move consent councillor caller. And Councillor Busitill? We'll

second. Thank you. I'll call the vote then. Is there anyone against the consent agenda items. It's nobody that's unanimous. Thank you. And now we have just like two more issues. And the first one is the site specific development charges By - law deferred payment agreement. It says Mayor Guthrie will speak to this. So I'm going to give a very high level. And Paul, you might want to get ready to come down to delegate. Okay. Uh, myself and a few other councillors as well were approached with an issue that came up for, uh, a nonprofit charitable group here in our city. That group is RCMPI, Royal City Music Productions Incorporated. And, uh, I wanted to try to do this as much justice as possible, but they have been, uh, in a spot, a location. For a very long time that is embedded in the same location as all of the buildings owned and operated by the Guelph Food Bank area, if you could call it that. And in the same spot there for a long time. And an opportunity came up for them to find another

unit in the same complex so that they could move to this one. They could renovate it. And this is where their theatre and theatre group is able to do their, their, their set to build their set, store their sets, do their costumes and have everything sort of under, under one area in this better space. And as that project was progressing, um, somewhat of a sort of surprise came that with this issue is now a 30, 000 dollar development charges request. And, um, we, not just in Guelph, but in many other cities, there's sort of what you can and cannot do within the allowances of, of the, of our current development charges by law. And, uh, waving them outright is just not possible. Um, I want to really thank, uh, staff big time for what I'm going to suggest is the solution to this. Um, and that is, is that there can be, uh, we can as counsel, if we approve enter into a deferred payment

option with no interest. And it's being proposed at 15 years. And the first payment would be starting next year. So it wouldn't be up front. Because remember the permit can't actually be given to them for the renovations unless they pay. So it's kind of this catch - 22. They can't start. The work they need to do if they don't pay unless they enter into this deferred payment agreement. And, um, the secondary part to the deferred payment agreement is also to ask our staff that when they do a review of our development charges by law next time, that they also consider, you know, what I would call, like a companion option, a companion option to the DC by - law of potentially a grant or potentially other options of waving. Uh, because this is about this moment about Royal City Muser Productions Incorporated, but it's about other charitable groups, other nonprofit groups that might want, that might find themselves in a similar circumstance. And so to ask our staff to just at least acknowledge the opportunity to look into that, to review and to bring recommendations in regards to that, at the future DC by -

law review date. I hope I've done it justice. Um, I do have, uh, delegation here. It is Paul Barson from Royal City Music Productions. And if Paul wouldn't mind coming down, uh, it is up to a five minute, uh, delegation. There is a buzzer at the four minute 30 second mark. And that gives you that 30 second warning. And then just in case there's a question from my colleagues just stick around at the end. And if there are none, we're done. But thank you for coming, Paul. And I'll turn it over to you. Thank you very much. Mayor Guthrie, members of Council. I am here as the Facility chairs and I'm with Jane Martin, our president, uh, representing Royal City Musical Productions. Um, we are here to support the recommendation. That was just, uh, put forward. And we ask all of you for your support. Um, so our CMPI is a volunteer run not for profit. That's been running on community spirit and fiscal responsibility for almost 50 years. We're in 1978. We started, um, we've made space for thousands of artists to come through our company. We've entertained hundreds of thousands of patrons in that time. We've also paid roughly 1. 5 million dollars to the river on centre for rents, wages, and capital

reserve funds. So through the decades, our CMPI has been spread out with temporary storage and building spaces in members, garages and basements and sheds and barns and commercial units all over town. We currently have two separate units that we're leasing, um, as commercial storage units. And so in February, we signed a lease on a new unit as the mayor mentioned, large enough to bring us all under one roof. We took, uh, this was a very exciting time. We took a big risk, um, to help our CMPI thrive and survive through long into the future. Um, however, as unexpected costs of piled up over the last five months of working through the approvals and permits, um, the excitement has remained strong, but the risk to our future is now very real. Um, every month that passes increases this risk as we are forced to carry double rent, um, we're paying about an extra two. More recently obviously was the addition of the almost 30, 000 dollars in development charges for the interior renovation we're doing. Um, so this amount is a one - time payment would put us from financial risk into severe financial risk. Um, so deferred and then installment payments would allow us to

get our permit, do the work and move on so that we can end the rent on our previous units. Um, we could then as a company look for creative ways to offset the 2000 dollars So please help us complete this build and support the powerful work being done by RCMPI in the community. We would love to be in our new home before it's time to build our set for all of our, which is on stage at the River and Centre in November. So I appreciate your time and thank you very much. And thanks Cam for all of the support on this. Oh no problem at all. Um, thank you. Are there any questions for Paul always here. No. Okay. So thank you. And thank you Jane for coming. Appreciate it. Um, so the recommendations are in front of us at Council or Downer, um, and actually Councillor, sorry. Okay. Yeah. Councillor Downer and actually Councillor Quran had mentioned to me that they'd be willing to move in second that. So I appreciate that. By the way, there was almost 12 hands up to do that. So thank you. Um, it's, it's officially on the, on the floor. Are there any questions in regards to this at all before I call the vote? No. Okay. I'm going to call the vote. Is there anyone against these

recommendations. Nobody. That's unanimous. Thank you very much. And thank you to staff. I just want to really mention again to staff. This is a creative way to facilitate this. And so I really want to thank you very much. Councillor Downer as well. Good conversations with you on this. So thank you very much. Okay. We're moving right along. This next one is also one that was added called the public space use By - law update. It also says Mayor Guthrie will speak to this item. Um, we're going to move into a closed session right off the top. About it before, um, we go into the potential recommendations and or changes or whatever the outcome is. So, um, with that, there is a request to go into, uh, in camera meeting under title public space use Byla update as per section two, three, nine two F advice. That is subject to solicitor client privilege, including communications necessary for that purpose. Would some of you willing to move into close, Lynn Dabusatil and Alt? Thank you. And is there anyone against that. No. Okay. We'll quickly go in camera and we'll be out as soon as we can as well. Thank you.

Okay, can my friends online, my colleagues online, please just put on your camera if you don't mind. Thank you.

Okay, we went into closed session just as the high level summary for legal advice from our solicitor. And we received that advice. There was no direction given in closed session at all. It was just advice. And now we are informed with that advice. And now we are coming out here. Okay, so with that, we have the public space used by - law update. It says, Mayor Guthrie will speak to this item. So. We, many of us, are, I won't say that. I will say this. I will not apologise. For bringing things forward. That are coming to me of grave concern from the community. With the issues that they are dealing with. As the mayor and as councillors, we have a duty to do that. And if those things are difficult conversations to have, even more

so. We bring it together as a group. And we try to figure it out. And so I put this on the agenda because I'm doing my job. And until November the 16th, I will continue to do my job. And that is to listen to the people on all sides of this issue, by the way. And to see if my Council colleagues agree with where I'm trying to go, or better yet, where we are trying to go, not just me. I want to start by saying that I have received multiple engagements with people that are experiencing very difficult situations. Of encampments. That are abutting their residents and their houses. It is not rosy, as some people make it out to be. These are real concerns. And for the sake, in my view, of the individuals that are experiencing homelessness and are in these encampments and for the people that are having to engage with these circumstances

against their residential properties, it deserves a council conversation, which is why it's here. Now saying that, I also listen to my Council colleagues. I also listen to the public. I also listen to staff, and including legal staff who give good advice. I'll just say it out loud. Great conversations with Councillor Downer a couple of days ago. Councillor Quran. Like great conversations about where this is going, what's happening. Okay. And so. Based on all that feedback, the issue is still a real issue that I believe needs to be considered. And we're not going to place on the floor for us to consider what is written, what was written by me with Staff's help, thank you, over the weekend. Sorry, can I just say one extra thing. Any commentary around procedure was not. Followed. Is false. I will stand up for the integrity of me being accused

of putting things on an agenda, not allowing people to delegate. That is false. Okay, so this was put on the agenda under the procedural bylaw, which is allowed. And we did everything by the book. Now, because of that, though, I also heard how important public engagement was over the weekend from both my colleagues. From people who have emailed, and I don't disregard that. So the reason why some of this stuff is not going to become on the floor right now, the way it was written is because that's an important issue. For this council and future council, hopefully, as we move forward, including me. But I do not want to let this go. Because there are real issues happening in our community right now. And so with that. What's going to be tabled here is going to be much different than what was on the agenda so that we can at least still consider and discuss and debate how to move forward if we wish. Councillor Downer has helped with and others in regards to new wording. To start us off, because the other amendments, or sorry, other motions coming. And to the clerk's department, I don't know if I've talked long enough where you have

that ready or not. Um, but, uh, if you could, that would be great. Yeah. Uh, to you, Mr. Mayor, just give us one moment, that material presented here. Certainly.

14, or not yet. Grace. Uh, thank you. And through you, Mr. Martu, Councillor Donald, we'll have something up on screen here, just a slight edit suggestion from what was sent in referencing the Bylett number. If you're agreeable, just let us know. Thank you. Are you okay with that referencing the By - Law number. Yes. Okay. Yeah. So this is the first of two sets. Of recommendations. Yeah, I'll turn the, thank you. I'll turn the floor over to you, move by yourself seconded by Councillor Galler. And if you could, uh, if you could go ahead and explain. And then there's going to be some other motions, I think Councillor Collar as well wanted to table some, but I'll turn the floor over to you. Okay. Go ahead. Uh, so if I could have the motions just back up on the floor and just sort of on the screen and just leave them there for a few minutes.

Yeah. So the intention is to, um, have a, like basically review the public space Bylaw and leave that to the new term of counsel to do that along with staff so that the fulsome report from staff and some of the issues that have been raised about, you know, and taking these things into account, but raise from all perspectives from, from community and from community partners, um, you know, it'll be a public, they'll be the Committee of the whole. There'll be Council meetings. So there'll be a number of opportunities for the public to be involved. Um, and I would imagine that, um, staff and they can indicate that and somebody can ask them that through this, they will, uh, be talking to community partners about what recommendations they would be bringing back forward. And I see Deputy C. O. Collect Bush, Nottingham Head as well. So, um, just some of the issues that have been raised around that was in the original Bylaw. And thanks for allowing that not to agreeing not to have that one put down. It was very prescriptive. Um, and a lot

of us had a lot of concerns around that. So and also any other recommendation revisions. Now that's not to say that during that process that, you know, some people in the public may come and want it changed in different ways, even stronger or weaker or however. And that that council at that time will hear that and be, be open and do their due diligence on, on those suggestions. So that's all I'm going to say about this part once the other rest of the motions go up than we can talk about those. Is there any questions or may I call the vote on, on this? Aaron, I'm sorry, Councillor Caten first. Uh, Coran, please. Thank you. Uh, this is a question to staff. So by looking at this, do you interpret it as a full public engagement? Is this just you doing the report? Would there be, um, AAC feedback. How would this look. Through the merit accounts, or Caden, we certainly would do engagement on this. It would not be to the extent of sort of our, our most fulsome public engagement because those processes can take upwards of a year. I think certainly we

would, um, connecting with EAAC, sort of thinking off the top of my head, uh, the Health and Housing Planning Table because they would be able to assist us with accessing their, uh, experience advisory group. And so we would be looking to do, uh, that level of engagement, uh, and then also by bringing it back to Council as a report, there would also be the public notice period process of that report and opportunities for people to sign up and delegate. Thanks. So. Through the mayor, there wouldn't be advanced public feedback. So it would be like once things were kind of written up, then folks would be able to come to the council meeting, see it on the agendas. And, uh, it would be more of a delegation feedback loop. Uh, through the Mayor to Council Caden, again, just sort of thinking it out loud. I think we would be looking for a number of different data points to bring back this report. We would be certainly looking to our staff in terms of the data, uh, of, of enforcement activities and where we have been seen challenges. I think we would certainly go out and talk to some of those groups that I mentioned in advance.

But then ultimately we would be bringing a report back to Council for your consideration and that that time, uh, the public would then have the opportunity to see any recommended revisions that we're bringing forward. Through that delegation process. Thank you. And do we have an estimate on, uh, what it would cost to do this engagement. Through the Mayor to Councillor Caden. I think at this point I'm envisioning that we'd be doing that within existing resources, but obviously within the limitations. And we haven't had opportunity to talk to our community engagement team. Um, so we would have to look at what their capacity and resourcing capabilities are on this, but we would be looking at doing this within existing resources. Thanks. And through the mayor, um, so if we're only doing it with an existing resources, is there anything that's going to get bumped to do this work. Maybe I'll jump in here. Mr. Mayerins, for you, the community engagement team as part of the corporate service group of departments, uh, has quite a long list of, uh, engagements that are forthcoming. We're, um, we're down a staff member at this point. And so that full

comprehensive community engagement process that I think Council's familiar with, with the leveraging the online tools that we use, et cetera, including in person, community engagement opportunities is not going to be available as, as DCL clock - Bush alluded to. The engagement on this Councillor Caden will be around, again, those, those community partner groups, uh, existing advisory committees of council where relevant. Councillor Caitn, you mentioned AAC. I think that's a really concrete example of where we would have that engagement. Um, but the, you know, the community engagement team would offer advisement maybe about other community partners to connect with, but to be certain it wouldn't be at this point, um, advisable to exercise that comprehensive community engagement program that we would do. And part of that is because, uh, between now and Q on 2027, um, we have an election and, uh, our best experiences that it's not advisable to sort of engage in those kind of processes during an election, uh, window. Um, and so that's part of the contributing factors that would, would limit us in that regard. But you've got great community engagement expertise to DCL clockbush's point where we can advise about some of those other partners to engage with. And through

the mayor, if I can just close off, I just also want to point out, we have had a number of other bylaw reviews that we have bumped. As you know, recently, for example, the e - scooter and the graffiti bylaw were both deferred, I think graffiti indefinitely, until at least the next term of council can consider it. So that is the other risk that from a bylaw review point of view and community engagement that this would now move to the top of the priority list so that we can be back in front of you in Q1 2027. Okay. Thanks. So with that in mind, I think that, um, this is something that would be best initiated in the next term when there's more availability to know what's going to get bumped and be able to do something more fulsome. Thank you very much. Thank you, Coronan Alt. Yes, thank you. And thank you for the way it's been phrased here. I mean, policy guides, what we do and why we do it and process guides, uh, how we do it. And I think we all know that policy and process, if they're not working or the new knowledge or the legal precedence, um, that that is always subject to change. We do regular bylaw reviews

through annual work plans. And that speaks to what Ms. Clark Bush and Mr. O'Brien just, um, just covered. And given that there is an election and that the budget, uh, the 2027 budget is one of the first things that the new council is going to be doing. And Q1 ends in March and we've got significant onboarding that will happen in the new year. I'd like to propose an amendment that, uh, this come back in Q2. And I would just want staff to report whether or not that, um, is something you could support in terms of your resourcing and whether that review can be done before the weather turns too warm to not be effective. And if there are changes that are being proposed, um, but I'll need a seconder for the Q two amendment before Staff can respond. Uh, alt will second, uh, the amendment for Q2 instead of Q1. And then staff could respond to that. So that's a pretty easy yes or no. So. Through the mayor, uh, yes, I think that would give us better, more time, um, to your point. Q1 is already very busy. You do also have the winter control operational review that you've asked to see, which will be coming out by information report, but for your consideration in advance of budget and the operations team, uh, is working on that as well as a priority. So I

think Q2 would give us that space, um, post election, uh, to bring it back to you and still in advance of sort of those summer months. Okay. Can I call the vote on the amendment? I'm comfortable with that personally. I'll support that. I think, I think you've raised some good points to consider why. And, but I also appreciate how Councillor Corinne and you and your response have also indicated that it would be before the months where more often we see encampments and see these issues. So I think that's fair. Okay. So I'll call the vote. Does anyone against the amendment to go to Q2. Okay. That's unanimous. So thank you. Um, are you okay? Can I go to councillor alt now? Yep. Okay. Council Ult, please. Uh, thank you very much, Mayor Guthrie speaking to the motion as amended. Um, I first of all want to thank Councillor Coron for what I think is a very important suggestion. Um, with a new Council coming on, I think that something that is, um, as emotional as this for most of the community is something that has better done once new councillors get their feet wet. Council Coran is quite correct that there is a very fine,

uh, interplay between policy and Bylaw. And I could not have supported the motions that were initially before. So I feel they were too prescriptive and, uh, just to be quite transparent. I did not support the original Bylaw in the first place. But because this was a new by - law, and I feel that I have an obligation to support something that is new, at least in its manifestation until we see what's right or wrong about it, um, we are embarking on finding out what works with this particular by - law. It's hardly perfect. And it's not wrong to seek input. I mean, if it was perfect, we would adjourn our meetings as soon as we got sworn in for the next four years. But we don't. We have to get things right. And that means for the whole community, for people that are in encampments, for people that are living beside encampments, for businesses, uh, for, for the whole of the environment as well. So I think that this makes a lot of sense the way that it's being presented. And I think that we can move forward, uh, on behalf of the whole community with something that is not prescriptive. That doesn't have the answers in it. But is rather seeking input and seeking solutions. Thank you. Thank you. Is there anything further before I call the main of called the vote on the

main motion as amended. Okay. I'll just quickly state, oh, the clerk wants to say something. Sorry. I apologise for the interruption. Mec, Guther, just to make sure we have the information captured. I don't remember who we had seconding the motion. I apologise. Councillor Collar. Councillor Gullers. Thank you for that correction. Um, so I just want to say, uh, little bit of a ditto to what I said at the beginning, but what's worth repeating. Thank you to my colleagues totally respectful conversations with every single person. Um, and everyone acknowledged that there is issues. Like there's so getting, getting this, uh, on the radar, uh, informed by more evidence. And I will just say we're about to look at a motion that looks to help with, um, kind of upscaling some of the response to encampments. And hopefully that will pass too. But that, that, that is tied into this for me because with the information that, that enforcement team. And gathers between now and when the review comes back, we'll also help inform. I will also say that there are so many legal challenges happening across

the province on this issue that, um, there are probably some outcomes of appeals and things like that that might happen between now in Q2 next year. Um, and that those appeals across the province may also help inform what the type of reviews might occur next year as well. Uh, but if you could just put the motion back up on the screen for me to the clerks there, I'll just finish, uh, by. Just saying, yeah, you know, one of the things that, you know, some people say, you know, I don't see these problems. Mayor Guthrie. I don't see why is this a problem? I'll just say that when you sit in this chair, this isn't it because I'm better than anybody at all. But when you are the mayor, you get the calls from across the city. Okay. So it's, it's different. I, I, I have the information that's coming to me multiple different ways because I, the mayor's office gets it. And, and I'm out and about all over the place. And so, um, I would just like to say that currently we don't have any setbacks at all to residential property line in our current bylaw. And I'm just going to say in my opinion, that's a big problem. That's a big problem. I'm

hearing of people jumping fences at night and plugging in, uh, steel in their electricity at night. Total up all night keeping people up with their small kids. And lots of issues to me as the review comes back, you know, like that, that's a big issue for me. Um, I will also say that the shelters and unauthorized structures are shelters or if we could say encampments that are near supportive housing and transitional housing, that's a big problem for me because I hear about a big problem from those that are sometimes running those very places. They have, they have people that are in these units that are trying to get off of drugs or addictions or other issues. And then 30 feet away from them, they can go to an encampment. All day long and not be on, on the path to recovery. So that's a big problem. Um, and I will just say also that we do have a current provision for distancing from shelters. I'm sorry, sorry, from like playgrounds, water parks, splash pads, waiting pools, et cetera. And in my opinion, it's not enough.

30 feet is not enough. And I'm hearing this from parents who are with their kids at playgrounds at baseball diamonds. Like there are conflicts that are happening. Um, so I just wanted to give some of that, um, feedback. I'm just, I'm the conduit from the community and I'm giving the feedback publicly here about the reason why some of these should be reviewed. And I'm very thankful for council to kind of go in this direction for whatever the next council can consider doing when the report comes back. With that, I will call the vote anyone against what was on the screen there for that. Just Caten. Okay. So that passes. Thank you. Um, now if we could go to the next. Motions. And so basically we've dealt with. I think we're going to go to number seven now. That will now become number two. In a way. And is this, uh, is this yours councillor goer that you wanted to address? And then I have another one from Councillor Downer too. Actually worship. I think Councillor

Dunrest submitting one in substitution to not just likely adjusted warning if I wanted to go, Cathy. Okay. Yeah. I have this substitution of Council Galler wants to second it. And then there's the other motions that could you pull it up then for us in the public to see on this track in my email of where this one was. Okay. Okay. Councillor Donner, did you want to move? And I'll second it again by Councillor Guller then. Okay. Go ahead, Councillor Donner. Oh, you put the mod together. Okay. So this one, um, this is a staff be directed. It's very similar to what was in the original motion, uh, that Mayor Guthrie had brought forward. That'd be directed on a pilot basis with a budget of 260, 000 for a seven month period. From August 26th of February 27, uh, 2027 funded from the tax operating contingency reserve to create a dedicated response team that will work closely with community agencies on the growing volume of encampments in the City of Guelph. So we have, um, they've been growing. More so like them we've seen normally seen, uh, this summer. And I recognise whether it's better, but there's obviously other factors involved in why this may be.

So there's, um, additional resources that I believe are needed and that I think we're through the budget. I think Staff had originally brought this forward. But then they got, we got taken out through the budget process. Um, but I think this is, this is going to be really important in, in helping, um, our staff, um, with community partners deal with some of the encampments and help folks, uh, get to the, uh, proper services that they may need. And then the other motions are, are basically, um, that ahead of the 2027 budget to come back with the evaluation on the impact of that dedicated team. So that dedicated team that we're talking about in the first motion is, it's not as temporary. And the evaluation of the need for permanent service level increase, we can leave out that any recommended revisions of the bylaws. Sorry. Because we, I put that in the first one. We can stroke that out. Um, so I could amend that to take that out if you want. Yeah. I think the best thing to do is I'll just add, just let me do my rigorol. Would you be willing to remove the motion. Yeah. Would you be willing to remove your

secondary? Thank you. Anyone on council want to challenge on that. No? Okay. Councillor Downer is going to move the motions, uh, just with that removed and Councillor Gullir will second. Okay. There you go. Uh, yes. And so any valuation of what those extra resources have done and, uh, whether the need for permanent service levels. Increases. Um, and then the third is that staff in the mayor be directed to increase advocacy efforts with both the provincial and federal governments and alignment with the anterior city mayors solve the crisis campaign. And I think throughout the last couple of years, we've seen a lot of motions, you know, directing the mayor and staff to do advocacy. But it's always good, I think, to keep that in there. Um, and then that the mayor respectfully requests that the county of Wellington, the consolidated municipal service manager for social services for the City of Guelph. Hold an emergency joint social services and land ambulance committee meeting, um, or at an item to the September 2026, um, joint social services and

land ambulance committee to discuss the growing volume of encampments within the city to understand the solutions. I'm missing are being actually, what, what solutions are being actioned to help transition people into permanent housing solutions. Just with that concern of the increase in encampments. Any questions on any of that at all. I see Councillor Busatil then alt. Okay. Thank you. And through the mayor, I have two questions. The first one is on the, uh, part first motion around the staffing. It says, uh, for seven month period from August, 2026 to February, 2027. And it's a question through the mayor to staff about the ability to hire on board and have staff in place by August. And when does the clock for seven month start. Uh, through the Murder Council, Bootsytel. So that would be in August first start. And certainly if this motion were to pass tonight, uh, we'll begin probably tomorrow. Um, and I think we'll look to be resourcing likely from within existing staff and then backfilling those vacancies would be my guess of what we would be doing. Um, and so again, because

it's seven months until final budget approval, um, we'll, we'll have to navigate how to handle that. Um, but I do think we can commit to getting a dedicated team together response team together, uh, by the beginning of August, even if we're using existing staff and shuffling people until we can get people in in a more permanent way, um, because I do think from a timing point of view, it's really important. Um, also because a part of the, uh, intent behind this is not simply related to enforcement, although that's obviously part of it, but also to make sure that we have a team who are connecting with the Wellington County housing team with our social services providers with the social workers from Steppingstone who wrote and visiting campments. Um, and so it is a multi - pronged approach. And so for that reason as well, uh, we'll prioritize getting this team up and going, uh, as soon as possible in August. Thank you. And through the mayor, the second question I have is, I kind of bristled a bit. I'll be very honest with, uh, the use of the word of encampments in this. This is not an encampment by law. It's a public space is by law. And I know in my area, I have called Bylaw about families cutting down trees and making structures

and having fire pits in the woods. Um, and so can you speak to that? Is this just about encampments or is this also about those unsanctioned structures that are created in public spaces? And I guess I would feel much more comfortable if it referred to consistently the language rather than, you know, suggesting encampments public space by - law public space by law. If you can comment on that, please. Through the Mayor to Councillor Boots, until so certainly, I don't want to comment on the wording because I, um, I think this was being crafted quickly, um, to get this in front of you tonight for consideration. Um, I don't disagree with you that we generally try to use public space use as the language because sometimes things that, uh, maybe an infraction within the public space, she's Byla aren't specifically in encampment, but may relate to other behaviours or activities or safety concerns. Um, and so, um, well, I think we understand the intent. And I don't think we, uh, I think we can work with it the way that it is worded because we understand the intent. Leave that to council's discretion if you would

feel more comfortable revising the language. I think the word encampment still shows up in, um, what is now motion number two and in what is motion number five. Thank you. Um, having had to call fire twice for the fire, not created by encampments, but by public misuse, uh, I would ask the mover my council colleagues to please consider public space use, uh, because there are behaviours that are not encampment. I'll leave it at that. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Uh, just be, I have councillor alt, but did you want to. I'll give the florid accounts for downer then to you, counsel. Thank, thank you. Mr. Mayor, just for clarity, the only place that encampment in this section is used in the first one. And it just, it just refers to the growing volume of encampments in the City of Guelph. So it's not referring to behaviour. It's not referring to the public use bylaw at all. It's, it's, it's referring to the encampments. It's referring

to the, so I, where we, where would you, I'm just sort of wanting to know where you'd want to see the change. All that council is. Thank you. I would feel much more comfortable if it was structures and encampments. So the people that are building forts. And as I'm saying, causing fires in the wood lots, um. It needs to recognise them that it's not encampments only. It is these recreation users that are in a natural heritage area that are causing fires. I'd like to move a motion to amend that the awarding B, sorry, I don't have it. There it is. Yes. Uh, that it be structures and encampments. The growing number of structures and encampments. Yep. Councillor Caeton is willing to second that, I believe. Is that what your hand is up? Okay. Perfect. May I call the vote on that. Okay. I'm not going to vote for it. I think it's skirting the issue. Personally, that's my opinion. There's 329 complaints that have come in so far to date. On encampments. There are not

a plethora of issues, I think, that Councillor Buscitillis brought up. But the will of council, if they want to change it to add those words, that's fine. But I think we're starting to starting to try to water down what the actual issue is that we are here to talk about. And I don't want to skirt around that issue. Um, so I'm not going to vote for it, but I'll leave it at that concert, downer. Could I just ask a question to Stath, you missed Amir, like adding structures, like the fire, the recreational stuff. It sort of, this is around social services and housing. This whole motion is around housing for homeless people. And I don't want to confuse the issue with, um, stuff that Bylaws deals with in encroachment on city's property with other kind of recreational structures. Does that, am I thinking, I'm just sort of asking, Deputy COMP Bush wrote that. So through the merit councillor down, um, I think we still understand the intent. I do, I do have a bit of a concern because there could be structures, for example, we might have a perfectly legally compliant structure on private property,

somewhere like a new garage or something, like structures is a very specific word related to building permits. Um, and so I think if the intent is encampments and the affiliated behaviours, I think we understand that intent and certainly the pilot program that's being proposed would be to address exactly those housing challenges related to, uh, individuals living in encampments. Okay. I'll call the votes. We've been moved and seconded to change it. And it is what it is. But, um, we've heard, my opinion, whatever that matters, but we've heard our staff answer as well. So, uh, is anyone against the amendment please raise your hand. So, uh, Gibson and Billings and Chu and Richardson and Gueller and Guthrie and Downer. I didn't count when I did that. Seven, six. So it is seven, six, so it fails. But another show of hands is being asked by the

clerk. I'll go backwards this time. So downer. And Guthrie. And Guller and Richardson and Xu and Billings and Gibson. Okay. So it just stays as it is. Okay. Okay. Councillor. Thank you, Merrick Guthrie. It's actually questions to you, Enter Councillor, uh, downer. Um, Zayam struggling. This is, um, I thought that what we just sent staff away with actually probably encompasses a lot of this with the exception of number one and number four. But, uh, when, when it comes to a dedicated team, I was wondering if we could, uh, clearly identify what communities, um, those, those, those, those, what agencies those community agencies are and what purpose are we, uh, going about. And so I think it's, uh, I'm not certain it's the staff, but I think it's to the mover. What are the dedicated agencies. This was, I've got to put, I'm going to refer it to the staff to talk about because they came up, was their solution. And actually it was in the lost budget originally. So yeah, um, through the mayor to councillor alt, if that's okay to answer. So dedicated community

agencies that we typically work with, we obviously, uh, the county of Wellington as our, uh, social services administrator and who oversee the housing office. They in turn contracts to stepping stone who provide the first immediate social worker response out into encampments. But we do work with a number of other community agencies through the Health and Housing Planning Table, including our welcoming streets team through the Gualth Community Health Centre, the Sanguine Health team, um, there are other agencies who we work with, who we would continue to liaise with. There are a number of agencies who do work out into encampments. And so we would want to make sure that, uh, we remain connected with them, um, because that's the best way to provide supports. And thank you to follow up on that. So to provide the supports, um, I want to be clear that what we're not doing with this is that this is not a motion that is punitive in its character, but is rather addressing a crisis that we currently have in housing and social services and mental health. And we are, we are trying to address it from many different perspectives. Is that staff's understanding. Through the Mayor Councillor Alt, I would say

yes, but it is also, uh, the energy will be directed into ensuring that encampments are compliant with the bylaw, are safe, our meeting, uh, meeting the location restrictions. And when they aren't, then connecting people with those agencies. And even for people who are compliant with the bylaw, we want to make sure we're still connecting them with those agencies. So they're getting the supports, the health care, et cetera, that they might need. Um, and then also part of this is also cleanup. Um, some of the sites we do see, um, waste left behind things from a safety point of view. And so part of this is resources to make sure that we are able to get in and clean up if there has been a location that's been either has moved or has been abandoned. And we want to make sure that we're cleaning up those locations safely. So, uh, just to follow up so the comparable, um, uh, bylaw or the comparable approach to city takes is what we deal with with people that actually live in homes, which is property standards. We're essentially applying the same thing to a site. Is that correct? Uh, through the mayor, um, I think, like with any bylaw,

um, property standards is one, but this is another one where, uh, we have a bylaw in place. And so we need to make sure that we have the resources to work with individuals to help make sure that they are compliant with the bylaw. And in this case to make sure that they have the supports that they need because we are, uh, working in this case with a population that, uh, tends to be more vulnerable and has higher acuity needs. And we want to make sure that we're connecting them with the necessary, uh, community resources. And I appreciate that because I think we do need to recognise that we are passing a bylaw for a very vulnerable population. Um, uh, question to the Mayor, just, just for clarity, Councillor, we're not passing a bylaw. Sorry. We're creating a specialized unit to help with these situations. Quite correct apologies. Um, uh, point number three. This is, I believe for the mayor through the, uh, big city mirrors. Can you please highlight what the advocacy efforts, um, that are looking for solutions. I think that's important for the public to hear. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Now I am going by memory. That's okay. But if everyone wants to, you're not as old as me. Yeah. If everyone wants to go to solve the crisis. ca. You will then see what I'm trying to remember by memory. But one

of the key things is for the province to actually create a dedicated ministry. For like mental health addictions and homelessness. Um, we feel that, um, a dedicated minister and the funding for that ministry would be better able to respond to the issues that cities are experiencing across the province. And to have the authority of like funding and not having to go to the treasury all the time. So that things can go much, much faster. Um, that is the big ask because currently we find that at the province, it's all sort of fragmented. And one, one, like housing will look at the, uh, housing ministry. We'll look at the, um, health ministry. As an example. And so we need someone at the ministry that is coordinated. Also, I'm sure that it asks for, uh, better dedicated funding immediate funding for like supportive housing transitional housing, affordable housing. I'm sure that's in there. Um, I'm sorry. There's, there's some more, but, uh, I can't quite remember off the top of my head. But if you go to

solve the crisis. ca, it's all late out there. Thank you. And can I just say one more thing? The AMO conference associates Municipalitario conference is happening in, uh, middle of August. And, um, we, on therapic City Mayors is getting ready for a full court press on this issue. Again. Thank you. Um, another question awkward one to you, Mr. Mayor. Point number four that the mayor respectfully requests the county of Wellington and the consolidated municipal service is not going to read a hold. And emergency joint social services and land ambulance meeting. What about if they say no. Um, so I, if they can't, and look at, do not read in, have no one read into the, if they can't is because they don't care. Okay. I just, it's because of probably how quick the scheduling is. And a lot of people are away. They usually have the month of both July and August off. Um, so I want, I don't want it to come across if it can't happen on an emergency basis that in any way is defining any defining them in any ill will. But that is why I also added the language that

says or on the agenda for September. Because I'll just, I'll just tell you why. And this is just coming for me. We collectively have spent like millions of dollars, both all levels of government. For increased shelter. Overnight. And increased beds and spaces. And transitional housing, like by multiples, like lots, which is to be celebrated. Then why do we have 56 encampments. Like if, and I can tell you right now, cause I've been doing a lot of research on this. There's room. Okay. There's room. Every night the room. But there, but people aren't choosing to go to the shelters. And that gets back to Councillor Caeton's motion from a little while ago. About the why. Right. So I'm at a loss here. Why the collective community and all levels of government has spent millions of dollars

on creating more beds. And we have 56 encampments. I want to know what the heck's going on. I think that's a legitimate question. Thank you. Um, and perhaps that frames my, my last question is actually a comment which was, uh, Councillor Downer, um, uh, the statement understand what solutions are being action to help transition people. It strikes me that the solution that's not being actioned is that the federal and the provincial governments are not building the housing. That is necessary. And that's, that's our problem. I recognise, I think that you've legitimately stated there are beds available. But that's not what people A either want or need. We're talking about a significant housing deficit for people. And what worries me right now is, uh, that I'm seeing it affecting senior citizens. Uh, I'm actually working with a retired cleric right now trying to find that individual housing because she just can't afford it. Uh, so consequently, I think we know what the problem is. The challenge is how do we get people into something that doesn't exist. I'll leave that as a comment. I don't think it can be a question. Cause I think it's true.

Okay. I think I can call the vote then. Nope. Councillor Caitlin, go ahead. Thank you. Through you, Mr. Mayor, the question of staff. So when, when we originally passed the public spaces by - law, I had made an extra motion for additional funds for things like garbage receptacles, um, sharps containers and things like that to be. Um, divided or put throughout areas of the most we need, um, within various encampments. Um, based on direction from the health and housing table. Is that something that continued or was that a one - time deal. Um, so through the Mayor accounts, Caden, um, so it continues in that we look for opportunities to provide, um, washrooms in a number of public places. We still continue to work with public health regarding sharps containers. Um, and so I think the work of evolved into something that we try to find ways to accommodate within our existing infrastructure, uh, in our parks. It can be very challenging because, uh, if

there isn't one specific location encampment's often move and they're varied and spread across, uh, the city, um, but we do continue to work with our, again, with our social services partners, um, to identify, uh, where are those basic needs and how can they best be met? And again, that is work that the county of Wellington does lead specifically through, for example, their winter response plan where they look to also, uh, make sure that those basic needs are being met. So is that adequately funded or cause I'm just worried like if I forgot 300 some odd complaints, uh, and some of them are related to the garbage and stuff like that or needles and we're not providing bins or needles. Then that could be a solution. So is, is there a need for more funding for that? Should we be upping the bucket that we're including in this, uh, ask to have more money for those. Through the Mayor to Councillor Kate and I would suggest that would be something we would do after the first seven months when we bring this back for next term of Council's consideration as part of budget in February. Um,

certainly, I think our experience is that provision of, for example, sharps containers doesn't actually avoid, um, sharps being disposed of in other locations. And so I think what has been part of this number that's before you is, uh, is an adequate number, um, to get this kickstarted. And then we will evaluate the need and we can, that would be part of the report back that would come, uh, at budget time, um, before this, uh, this program was made, uh, potentially permanent through that budget process. Great. Thank you. I appreciate that. Okay. I think I can call a vote on all of these everybody. Yes. Okay. Here we go. Is anyone against these series of motions as tabled. That's nobody. That's unanimous. Uh, thank you very much. I don't see anything further on this. I'm good. I think we're done this topic. I said at the very, very beginning that it deserved the conversation. It deserved to be brought forward. And I really want to thank everyone for having a good conversation about it. And it is moving forward. And it sends a signal to the community that we're looking, looking into these issues. And we'll see what happens when it comes back. Okay. So thank

you. Uh, with that councillor hauser is going to bring forward our bylaws force. Thank you. Uh, that by laws. 2026, two and two four eight, two one two seven eight two one two seven nine and two one two eight and two one two eight five. Be approved for subject to section two eight four point 11 subsection four of the municipal act. Great councillor goer has said that, uh, you will second that. Anything further on those bylaws. Nope. Okay. I'll call the votes anyone against those bylaws at all. No. Okay. Mayors announcements. I have. None. Dramatic pause. That means we're going to adjournment. And this means. We're here tomorrow. And then we're not around for a while. Okay. So I will see everybody here tomorrow. But I need adjournment council or billings is going to do that for me. And Councillor Caten is going

to second adjournment. Perfect. Anyone against a German. Nobody. Thank you very much everyone. Have a good rest of the night.